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« on: February 05, 2009, 10:30:02 PM »
Never had a problem with my car. Last night after a 70 mile round trip i fill up at my local ASDA store. I drive 3 miles home and about 2 miles this morning.

Then the car start running like a sack of sh!te. Wont go over 2000RPM and engine fault light starts to flash.  If i turn off and restart its ok, but i have to drive the car under 2000 rpm or the same again.

I am going to drive like this until 1/2 full then refill with Shell diesel and see how it go's

Have any of you lot had a problem with cheap supermarket fuel?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 10:35:29 PM »

My first thought would be either dirty fuel causing a blockage or possibly frozen fuel if you've left it out over night.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 10:37:26 PM »
Yes its left out over night, drove about 7 mile today and left it parked all day, but the same again on the way home.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 10:38:15 PM »
I had a Nissan Almera Tino 2ltr Petrol that kept giving problems. The inside of the carburetter kept getting clogged up with carbon residue. I stopped using supermarket petrol on the advise of the Nissan main dealer and the problem stopped.

... but i've not had any diesel problems thank goodness ...... my nearest non-supermarket fuel station is 10 miles away!
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 10:39:34 PM »
Id get the car checked if the problem seems serious, though there was problems with cheap fuel from supermarkets, it was an isolated incident and i would lay money that they wouldn't want to let it happen again, and therefore have processes in place to make sure they dont.

I have used several different supermarket fuels since the last problem and found both Asda and Sainsburys standard 95ron better than BP's so called 97ron though nothing compares with Shell 99ron.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 10:41:27 PM »
Seems the problems only started since filling up last night.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 10:46:58 PM »
Seems the problems only started since filling up last night.

If you got toothache after changing your tooth paste would you blame the toothpaste? The fault could be any number of thingsI would get it checked in case its not the fuel it could be something more serious.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 10:48:03 PM »
If you got toothache after changing your tooth paste would you blame the toothpaste? The fault could be any number of thingsI would get it checked in case its not the fuel it could be something more serious.

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 10:48:34 PM »
before xmas, had issues with morrisons fuel surging & coughing all the way to job from 1/3 of tank to cutting out on slip road then free wheeled in a shell garage primed system with 25/30 quid then behaved the 30 mile or so all the way back down the b road's home

I suspect there was water in the fuel ?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 10:50:17 PM »
TBH its not a problem driving at under 2000 rpm for a while, i will refill if it keeps doing it i will have to take it to Honda £££££
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 10:52:35 PM »
I had a similar conversation this morning with me dad, i wont fill up with super market fuel anymore, i havent for well over a year.

It was on top gear or something similar last week, may have been a repeat, comparing the fuels. SM fuel lacked in power although only about 5 BHP and was said most drivers wouldnt notice.

I notice the difference, but that programme does show that it is different fuel and we are back to, you get what you pay for.



Next thing jeff and james will want is NACOSS fuel Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 11:04:30 PM »
fuel cost us the same whether it's bp, total or morrisons as keyfuels cards

andy prob's is maybe water in fuel or condensing in tank due to cold or fuel waxing due to cold, ecu issues which maybe curred but removing batery for 1/2 hour or so,

a tame garage with fault code reader?

I'd just stick a 1/2 a tank decent derv in it,
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 11:08:45 PM »
It will take me 250 miles at under 2000rmp to burn off 1/2 a tank.  lol
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 11:11:33 PM »
used the tesco 99ron in my car and it pulley 5bhp more on the dyno.
the wives car runns better on the shell v stuff but still gets the tesco 99
always put tesco or asda diesel in the trafic without ever problems
lpg is much the same everywhere in the conect, lol


id change the fuel filter(s) as a cheap 1st option before going to drop yer drawers at honda
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 11:15:30 PM »
It will take me 250 miles at under 2000rmp to burn off 1/2 a tank.  lol

And the way the roads are at the minute, thats about 3 weeks Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 11:38:19 PM »
Tyneside is still a snowless zone!
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 11:49:25 PM »
No way, me lads school shut again today
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2009, 11:59:45 PM »
No way, me lads school shut again today

he burnt it down again?
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 12:02:29 AM »
same in falkirk, no snow since monday and transit connects have to be the worst thing ever in the snow IMO. For a van that eats so many fromt tyres (8K average) you'd thing it would at least offer some front end grip in return, but alas no.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 07:49:12 AM »
Woke up to a slight dusting, disgusted!
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2009, 08:07:15 AM »
Several inches here in Bristol and still falling, trip to Oxford cancelled for another 'southern softee'!
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2009, 09:10:33 AM »

Nice day here. Postman wearing shorts.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2009, 09:18:44 AM »
Never known the main Wells Road quieter, hardly anything moving anywhere and probably won't see postie today.

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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2009, 10:28:15 AM »
put some proper diesel in it and ill bet its ok. Unless its damaged. I never use supermarket fuel after i had problems with 2 vauxhalls i had whenever they had cheap not very good fuel in em.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2009, 06:11:14 PM »
Morrisons had issues a year or so again with a dodgy batch of fuel. I don't buy the cold, years ago diesel use to wax but nowadays isn't an addative added?
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2009, 06:54:44 PM »
the fourcourts sell "winter / summer" diesel / petrol between certain dates, there a "road fuel act" or something

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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2009, 09:01:37 PM »
used the tesco 99ron in my car and it pulley 5bhp more on the dyno.

colder air temp and a stiff breeze could account for 5bhp

I never use supermarket fuel after i had problems with 2 vauxhalls after "span on diesel" and  panned them into walls.

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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2009, 09:03:37 PM »
I have only done 40 miles in 2 days its going to take ages at this rate to use it. saying that i have 2 installs in Manchester next week thats 50 mile a day.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2009, 09:04:27 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2009, 09:22:56 PM »
Sounds like a new engine to me Andy.

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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2009, 09:56:20 PM »
colder air temp and a stiff breeze could account for 5bhp

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enclosed chamber with set humidity via air con and ram air fans

must be some serioulsy bad diesel TBH because I've used veg oil, crap bio and nothing but the cheapest fuel for 3 years without even gumming up a filter.
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2009, 09:59:16 PM »
Will let you all know how i get on when i fill her up.  001_tongue
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2009, 10:15:56 PM »
Well after a few days and about 200 miles all was well, the car is running 100% again.  Did around 450 miles then filled up at Shell over the weekend and still running 100%, must have been water in the diesel.
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2009, 10:21:11 PM »
glad you got it sorted.

the last 150 ltr of biodiesel I bought has started to go lumpy (looks like solid fatty bits in it) so I figured it was the cold as my units unheated and it's been barely been above zero degrees the last few weeks up here.
Decanted the liquid from each drum to clean empty drums and the next morning 4 of them are like solid chip fat!?!?!?!?
xxxxxxx £100 worth of fuel no use now & I'm gutted.
I'm using the other 2 drums and so far no problem.
I'll not bother again TBH but it saved 20p per litre while diesel was around £1.30.
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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2009, 07:19:32 AM »
Must be that wigan diesel Andy.

Tell me, do they still sell 2 star and 3 star over there?
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